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Old 08-04-2010, 03:29 AM
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Is there any written and pictured litterature on the entire Pum family? Im looking to finally dive into the egg feeders and I need to see what is out there. I have seen the forum pics and a few private collections but Im after the big list. Is there one, Atleast one of all thats availible in the hobby?

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Old 08-04-2010, 03:40 AM
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Mitochondrial paraphyly in a polymorphic poison frog species (Dendrobatidae; D. pumilio) is a good starting point.
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Awesome,this is something everyone should do. Thanks Tony for the link
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There are just too many damn red and blue ones. Not to mention the green ones and the spotted ones. This is why I have always favored the R. family of thumbs. Lots of variety,

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Oh wow that's an awesome paper. Thanks Tony!
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Thanks for the help Tony. That is a start but I want every morph of Pum and every known color variation and pics.

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Old 08-04-2010, 04:55 AM
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That is a fantastic paper. I think it is very interesting that some pums are more closely related to D. arboreus and some are more closely related to D. speciosus.
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Old 08-04-2010, 06:28 AM
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Tropical Experience has a listing of several Pumilio morphs with associated photos:

http://www.tropical-experience.nl/in...mid=52&lang=en



PS - Great Paper; thanks Tony
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Michael this is one of my favorites: http://www.pumilio.com/gallery/pumilio/thumbnails.htm
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Can someone post Tony's paper in a different format? I can't open it on my computer. Thanks.

The issue (one) with pums in Panama especially is that there are quite likely more pum locales not named than named. And more locales which are not understood to be separate locales than locales which are quite obviously interbreeding.
Bottom line, the hobby is way, way behind on understanding what we have here today, what is out there, what should be bred to what, and what should be done to fix this.

Start demanding exact locale data from importers and we may start seeing a tiny bit of this clutter and misinformation shift.

Tropical experience is Ok , but Thomas' cite is very vague (as it should be when in doubt) due to the fact that most of his stuff came in , years ago, without exact data, so he errs on the side of being vague.

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